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AVID students -answer 2 questions on the Questions California 4 Year and Community Colleges Questions page found by using the drop down menu and reply to at least one classmate’s post.
Expo, comp. students -answer q’s on URL’s Questions page after following links and reading pertinent articles.
Please leave a comment that answers two of the questions below. Then, respond to a classmate’s comment.
If a friend told you that he or she was considering LA Mission College, what advice would you give to him or her? What evidence do you have to back up your ideas?
Why do so many students take so long to complete, or never complete community college in California?
How much money is reasonable to take out in loans for a four year degree? Give reasons to support your idea.
Where can you find more affordable college books? What strategies are available to save money on books?
Why are for-profit schools usually a bad idea? What facts support your assertion?
Where can you find information on college costs?
California State University Northridge – Costs
In State -fees: $6,564 per year plus books, lab fees and parking or transportation. $26,256 for 4 years (tuition) (Petersons.com)
This is reasonable tuition. Most at SFHS will get all or most of that cost in a financial aid award if FAFSA is completed.
If family income exceeds $60,000 student will pay all or most of the cost of tuition. Still, with loans, this is a good option.
Financial aid awards usually require students to work up to 15 hours per week.
If you are required to go, early start summer programs are extra. Some get fee waivers for this. Fill out FAFSA in January.
Last year Early Start Writing course online was $184 plus books. $182 per unit plus $2 health service fee.
Early Start Writing (ESW): Offered online only as a 1-unit, 3-week intensive learning experience.
Early Start Math (ESM): One unit online course $184 plus books, ($182 per unit plus $2 health service fee.)
Early Start Math (ESM): Three units face to face 6 weeks on campus. $552 inclusive of fees plus books.
Options – Offered online and face-to-face. -either a 1-unit course 3, 6 or 8 weeks; or a 3-unit course lasting 6 weeks.
Students who attend CSUN in the fall are encouraged to enroll in a 6-week, face-to-face ESM option, either 1 or 3 units. You should consult an academic advisor if you have questions about the best Early Start Math course for your major.
Fees are per unit. One unit is $182 plus $2 per unit in fees.
http://www.csun.edu/admissions-records/early-start-program
Check your email regularly. Colleges will communicate primarily by email.
Do not forget to register for early start if you are required to go.
Even if you have been accepted to a CSU, if you do not register for early start you cannot go to CSU in the fall.
Most CSU rates are comparable to CSUN.
Most college courses will require books averaging 100 per course, sometimes a little more. Buy online, rent or purchase ebooks to save money.
California community college completion rate:
Only 46.8 % of students completed a 2 year, associate’s degree in 6 years. If you have the option to go to a 4 year, go.
That means on average, 53.2 percent of community college students were not able to get a 2 year degree in 3 times the amount of time that it takes to get one. There are many reasons for this.
http://scorecard.cccco.edu/scorecardrates.aspx?CollegeID=000#home (CCC student success scorecard)
California 4 year public colleges have a much better completion rate with 4 year Bachelor’s degrees.
64% of California 4 year public college students graduated with a 4 year Bachelor’s degree within 6 years.
http://collegecompletion.chronicle.com/state/#state=CA§or=public_four
UC Riverside Costs: Tuition $11,220 Fees $2,307
Housing – (room and board) $15,700
Total per year if living at home $13,527.
Total for four years if living at home or with relatives
(no housing fees) $54,108.
Total per year with housing $29,227.
Total for four years with housing: $116,908.
(Petersons.com)
Financial aid will offset about one half to two thirds of the total cost for families under the $60,000 total household income threshold. All but 3 of my AVID Students last year were beneath the threshold. (Most of our students)
ITT Tech
Tuition 24,196 average per year (no housing)
Total for 4 years if living at home $96,784. (ITTtech.edu)
Not a good value!
Housing costs on average 10,000 per year with roommates. housing costs approximately an additional $40,000.
These credits do not transfer to other universities.
Project Grad scholarship does not work with this for-profit school.
Check out: \http://www.nonprofitcollegesonline.com/problems-with-for-profit-colleges/
Another for profit college is FIDM. This school is very overpriced for the education and the credits do not transfer! Do not be tempted!
To check basic information about colleges go to Petersons.com and search for your college of choice.
There you will find costs, average test scores of first time freshman,
acceptance percentages and lists of majors that each school offers. Be sure to spell out the college name i.e. California State University Northridge instead of CSUN or Cal State Northridge.
Another note about costs, out of state schools are generally up to triple the cost of schools in the state where you reside.
California schools are cheaper for you since the state taxpayers are subsidizing your education. Keep this in mind if you are thinking about out of state schools.
Los Angeles area Community College Completion Rates:
Completion Rates are for a 2 year degree completed in 6 Years.
Los Angeles Trade-Tech 30%
Los Angeles Mission College 34%
Los Angeles Valley College 42.1%
Los Angeles Pierce College 47.8 %
Santa Monica College 47.5%
College of the Canyons 54.3%
Pasadena City College 55.2%
Glendale Community College 55.5%
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